The homeless - Page 2

007 · 02-12-2007, 12:40 PM

I dig what you're saying.

Eibhlin · 02-12-2007, 03:08 PM

Alli, I think you really hit it right on the head. Thanks for stating it so clearly!

ItBeThatWay27 · 02-12-2007, 04:43 PM

Well Mr "Jones" this isn't the right thread but remember your thread about your family thinking you are gay since you listen to Jewel so much? I'll use this as an example because right there as a human I had some empathy for you with your issue. Isn't that what you wanted by posting that thread? Yeah I did, even though I am not the one "causing" your family to call you gay. That is just plain brotherhood. But have no fear, I don't ampathize for you anymore. Since it's not "my problem" that everyone thinks you are gay, I won't bother to feel sorry for you.

Back on topic, atwiste, I think you did a superb job of giving an educated opinion from someone who has really delt with this issue. I commend you.

007 · 02-12-2007, 07:59 PM

Cute! Very Cute!

awiste · 02-12-2007, 08:07 PM

Yeah... homelessness is just such a complicated issue. I would love to see more funding going toward mental health and addiction rehabilitation. I think if we put more effort there, we would see an improvement many other areas of our society. Lets try to change the world one step at a time. It may take years and even generations but I believe it can be done.

Eibhlin · 02-12-2007, 09:58 PM

ya, it's hard when you invest your time in someone and they just go on down the path they were on when you started trying to help them. I was in a situation where we let someone live with us that we were trying to help out of a bad situation. The person not only didn't appreciate a thing we did but told everyone they worked with nasty stuff about us, and landed right in the situation we predicted would happen if they didn't wise up and change. So, anger and even bitterness is only a natural emotion in response to that, and I cannot foresee a situation or circumstance in which I would EVER try to help that person again. It's not my life to live, so I no longer concern myself with it. I feel callous even saying that, but I know my limit when it comes to that situation. Soooo, anyways...

Rehab and help with the mental health issues would be terrific, unfortunately with atleast some of the people I have known, they refuse the help they need, so what's to be done there? Gah, I am on a pretty negative spin right now, so I will just let this alone for the time being.

awiste · 02-13-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eibhlin

ya, it's hard when you invest your time in someone and they just go on down the path they were on when you started trying to help them. I was in a situation where we let someone live with us that we were trying to help out of a bad situation. The person not only didn't appreciate a thing we did but told everyone they worked with nasty stuff about us, and landed right in the situation we predicted would happen if they didn't wise up and change. So, anger and even bitterness is only a natural emotion in response to that, and I cannot foresee a situation or circumstance in which I would EVER try to help that person again. It's not my life to live, so I no longer concern myself with it. I feel callous even saying that, but I know my limit when it comes to that situation. Soooo, anyways...

Rehab and help with the mental health issues would be terrific, unfortunately with atleast some of the people I have known, they refuse the help they need, so what's to be done there? Gah, I am on a pretty negative spin right now, so I will just let this alone for the time being.

I hear what you are saying. There are a lot of people out there that are not able or willing to get the help they need. Despite repeated trip to jail, the work house, and court ordered rehab, my cousin died last month because he crashed his car while driving North in the South bound lanes of the interstate--just after bar close... ugh.

motoslam · 02-13-2007, 03:50 AM

i think homeless people are given a bad reputation. people dont realize that they were normal people too before they ran into the dilemma that made them homeless. Theres probably even been rich people who have been been forced to be homeless due to depts or something so i dont think its cool how people cud just point a finger and judge a homeless person without even knowing their story. thats why imma do my part and volunteer at a food bank sometime. unfortunatley its not just from the goodness of heart, i gotta get 40 hours of community service or else i cant graduate. what a stupid rule.

ItBeThatWay27 · 02-13-2007, 11:46 AM

I've been thinking on this some more. Everyone here at this point has valid things to say about this issue and this is where I wanted this topic to go. I like when people's opinions have some depth and a backbone, not just hot air. I want to add that I don't think it's really about one person changing the world. Yeah maybe that's not possible. You can't change THE world, but you can change SOMEONE'S world. And if nothing else, it helps build on your own character and humanity. We've all had someone help us out when we needed it (not necessarily with homelessness) but that person probly changed your life for the better and gave you a little slice of hope. And I think that's what it's about, not necessarily organizing a huge coalition for a world-wide sweep of kindess..

Eibhlin · 02-14-2007, 04:31 PM

in the words of Jethro Tull:

"No do-good overkill, we must teach them to be still more independent"

I love Baker St. Muse

02-12-2007, 03:08 PM	#17
Eibhlin Oscillating Fan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 2,044 Rep Power: 254	Alli, I think you really hit it right on the head. Thanks for stating it so clearly! __________________ I'd like to call you my wild horse and feed you silver sage Andrea an eye for an eye makes the world blind

02-12-2007, 04:43 PM	#18
ItBeThatWay27 Gary, 'Disposable-Hero' Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,242 Rep Power: 0	Well Mr "Jones" this isn't the right thread but remember your thread about your family thinking you are gay since you listen to Jewel so much? I'll use this as an example because right there as a human I had some empathy for you with your issue. Isn't that what you wanted by posting that thread? Yeah I did, even though I am not the one "causing" your family to call you gay. That is just plain brotherhood. But have no fear, I don't ampathize for you anymore. Since it's not "my problem" that everyone thinks you are gay, I won't bother to feel sorry for you. Back on topic, atwiste, I think you did a superb job of giving an educated opinion from someone who has really delt with this issue. I commend you. __________________ so close no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who we are and nothing else matters

02-12-2007, 07:59 PM	#19
007 Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Staring at four gray walls that surround me.... Posts: 692 Rep Power: 0	Cute! Very Cute! Last edited by 007; 02-13-2007 at 10:17 PM.

02-12-2007, 09:58 PM	#21
Eibhlin Oscillating Fan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 2,044 Rep Power: 254	ya, it's hard when you invest your time in someone and they just go on down the path they were on when you started trying to help them. I was in a situation where we let someone live with us that we were trying to help out of a bad situation. The person not only didn't appreciate a thing we did but told everyone they worked with nasty stuff about us, and landed right in the situation we predicted would happen if they didn't wise up and change. So, anger and even bitterness is only a natural emotion in response to that, and I cannot foresee a situation or circumstance in which I would EVER try to help that person again. It's not my life to live, so I no longer concern myself with it. I feel callous even saying that, but I know my limit when it comes to that situation. Soooo, anyways... Rehab and help with the mental health issues would be terrific, unfortunately with atleast some of the people I have known, they refuse the help they need, so what's to be done there? Gah, I am on a pretty negative spin right now, so I will just let this alone for the time being. __________________ I'd like to call you my wild horse and feed you silver sage Andrea an eye for an eye makes the world blind

02-13-2007, 03:50 AM	#23
motoslam mo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: canada Posts: 138 Rep Power: 212	i think homeless people are given a bad reputation. people dont realize that they were normal people too before they ran into the dilemma that made them homeless. Theres probably even been rich people who have been been forced to be homeless due to depts or something so i dont think its cool how people cud just point a finger and judge a homeless person without even knowing their story. thats why imma do my part and volunteer at a food bank sometime. unfortunatley its not just from the goodness of heart, i gotta get 40 hours of community service or else i cant graduate. what a stupid rule. __________________ SWEEET

02-12-2007, 12:40 PM	#16
007 Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Staring at four gray walls that surround me.... Posts: 692 Rep Power: 0	I dig what you're saying.

02-12-2007, 08:07 PM	#20
awiste Alli Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 283 Rep Power: 0	Yeah... homelessness is just such a complicated issue. I would love to see more funding going toward mental health and addiction rehabilitation. I think if we put more effort there, we would see an improvement many other areas of our society. Lets try to change the world one step at a time. It may take years and even generations but I believe it can be done.

02-13-2007, 11:46 AM	#24
ItBeThatWay27 Gary, 'Disposable-Hero' Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,242 Rep Power: 0	I've been thinking on this some more. Everyone here at this point has valid things to say about this issue and this is where I wanted this topic to go. I like when people's opinions have some depth and a backbone, not just hot air. I want to add that I don't think it's really about one person changing the world. Yeah maybe that's not possible. You can't change THE world, but you can change SOMEONE'S world. And if nothing else, it helps build on your own character and humanity. We've all had someone help us out when we needed it (not necessarily with homelessness) but that person probly changed your life for the better and gave you a little slice of hope. And I think that's what it's about, not necessarily organizing a huge coalition for a world-wide sweep of kindess.. __________________ so close no matter how far couldn't be much more from the heart forever trusting who we are and nothing else matters

02-14-2007, 04:31 PM	#25
Eibhlin Oscillating Fan Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 2,044 Rep Power: 254	in the words of Jethro Tull: "No do-good overkill, we must teach them to be still more independent" I love Baker St. Muse __________________ I'd like to call you my wild horse and feed you silver sage Andrea an eye for an eye makes the world blind