Your Names

[lordassmonkey]

Im Shawn...
Lordassmonkey on here

[folderol and]

David.

\ david

[LonelyLullaby]

Gemma. But don't do any of those g'emma calling me things, it has a soft "g" as in "gem"

[lordassmonkey]

Alright G'emma I will be sure to pronounce it right

[MrCC]

I store my name down here in a special place. I call it a signature. ;)


-------------------------------------------
Mr CC
aka Mike <-----------------------------------------------It's right here.

Visit the Most Serious Jewel Site on The Planet:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/jewelkilcher/ASPCJ_Banner.gif
http://www.geocities.com/jewel_australia/

[Angel_Eyes]

Like Mike (not the movie ;)), I have my name in my signature. I started it though. ;)

[Eibhlin]

Andrea is my actual name, Eibhlin is my S.C.A. name...Eibhlin an Eich Gile, for medieval re-enacting. :silly:

[michaelsjewel]

i think my user name gives it away....MICHAEL ;) it's in the signature...the image...and my user name....beat that tracy and mike! :mooner: :muhaha:

[MrCC]

Originally posted by michaelsjewel@Apr 9 2005, 08:47 PM
i think my user name gives it away....MICHAEL ;) it's in the signature...the image...and my user name....beat that tracy and mike! :mooner: :muhaha:
I'll never beat you, Michael. Nice name though.

[michaelsjewel]

i agree mike....VERY NICE NAME U HAVE 2!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[WhatWouldJewelDo]

Im Bobby,

My friends call me BMak,

[LonelyLullaby]

Alright G'emma I will be sure to pronounce it right

:P You better
Anyway I found some definitions for your names:
(It's from the Everything- Baby Names book)

Michael - (Hebrew) Who is like god?
Along with Mohammed and John, Michael could be one of the most popular boys? names in the world in any language. The reasons? Famous Michaels get lots of press, both good and bad, and as a result, the name is always out there. In addition, the name is liberally scattered through both the Old and New Testaments as well as throughout the Koran. Today?s famous Michaels include Michael Millken, Michael J. Fox, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, and Michael Douglas, plus others with variations of the name: Mickey Rourke, Mickey Rooney, and Mick Jagger. Michael has been at the top of the names list in this country for over four decades. Variations: Mike
Shawn- (Hebrew) God is good
Another feminine variation of John
David ? (Hebrew) Cherished
Even though the name David has been in this country since the 1700s, it has never really gone out of style. The fact that David is a biblical name- David opposed mighty Goliath- and that so many famous people have lived with the name may combine to account for its continued popularity: David Bowie, David Mamet, David Cassidy, David Letterman, Davy Jones, and Dave Winfield. The name has significance in both the Christian and Jewish religions: David is one of the patron saints of Wales, while the Star of David is the cornerstone symbol of Judaism. Variations: Dave
Bob- (English) Bright; famous
Like its common counterpart Bill, Bob is rarely given as the name that will appear on the birth certificate; Robert it typically the given name of choice. Variations: Bobby
Justin- (Latin) Just
Kyle- (Scottish) Narrow land
When I was at the beach last summer, there must have been at least four little boys under the age of five with the name of Kyle running around. Though Kyle is also a popular choice for girls these days, the name for boys has made it into the top twenty most popular names of the 90s. In Hebrew, it means crowned with laurel. Since the name is so newly popular, expect it to be prominent for the next five to ten years
George- (Greek) Farmer
While George as a given name has not been the most popular choice in the last couple of decades, it seems to be making a mini-comeback, particularly among parents who wish to honor an older relative with the name. Famous Georges include George Washington, George Patton, Giorgio Armani, and George Bush. Although a woman novelist in the nineteenth century became famous under the pseudonym George Sand, the name George is overwhelmingly more popular for boys than for girls. Variations: Georges-I thought it was close to Georger
Craig- (Welsh) Rock
Craig was once very popular, with actors Craig Stevens and Craig Lucas claiming it for themselves
Tracy- (English) Summer (what a beautiful definition for a name)
Variation of Teresa. Tracy was one of the more popular gender-neutral names back in the 60s when it was in the middle of its transition from boys? name to girls? name. Today, other gender-neutral names are more popular, but a number of famous Tracys may renew interest in this name: Tracy Chapman, Traci Ullmna, Tracy Austin
Kiara- (American) Unknown definition. Variations: Kiera
Leigh- (English) Meadow
In its simpler spelling, Lee, this name has always been more popular for boys than for girls, but Leigh is beginning to gain a following. I?ve always liked the name Leigh, but it always seemed that with its exotic spelling it should have an unusual pronunciation as well
Gemma- (Irish) Jewel; (Italian) Precious stone
Melissa- (Greek) Bee
Today Melissa hovers around the bottom half of the top twenty-five list. The name is destined to move up the ranks slightly, owing to the success and popularity of singer Melissa Etheridge. Melissa is an ancient name that was first popular during the early Roman Empire as it was the name of the woman who nursed the mighty god Juno when he was a baby
Carissa- (Greek) Refined
Andrea- (Scottish) Womanly
Feminine version of Andrew. Andrea has regularly appeared in the top fifty names for girls list since the 1950s; however today, the name is more commonly used in one of its more exotic variations, especially the name Andie, after the actress Andie MacDowell. In the 70s, Andrea seemed to be a utilitarian kind of name, but apparently that has changed. Perhaps a character with that name on the show Beverly Hills 90210 has increased the sophisticated feel of the name
(It's one of my favorite names by the way. And Andrea, you're part of the S.C.A? That should be very interesting)
Isabel- (Spanish) Pledge of God
Version of Elizabeth. Though Isabel seems like it might be too ethnic or too old-fashioned to be popular, the truth is that it is one of the more popular names around and still growing. Actress Isabella Rossillini has helped to bring exposure to this name. Variations: Isabella
Emily- (English) Industrious
Emily is one of those names that automatically implies brains and beauty as well as a nod toward old-fashioned days. In a recent study, Emily was the name that was most often chosen for daughters of women who completed college and have gone on to further their education. Variations: Emilie

I'm sorry if I've forgotten anyone, but I tried to include everyone
If your name is not here let me know maybe I could find a definition for that as well. I hope you like what your name means

[michaelsjewel]

you typed all of that up from a book....

bravo for devotion of time :clapjoy: :clapjoy: :clapjoy: :clapjoy:

[Angel_Eyes]

Originally posted by LonelyLullaby@Apr 10 2005, 09:58 AM
Tracy- (English) Summer (what a beautiful definition for a name)
Variation of Teresa. Tracy was one of the more popular gender-neutral names back in the 60s when it was in the middle of its transition from boys? name to girls? name. Today, other gender-neutral names are more popular, but a number of famous Tracys may renew interest in this name: Tracy Chapman, Traci Ullmna, Tracy Austin
That's interesting, especially since my older sister is named Teresa. :) My name was a last minute thing though, so my parents didn't know about the meanings or anything.

[Eibhlin]

:) hey gemma, that was pretty cool of you to look up our names for us ^_^
ya, the SCA is pretty cool, you should check out the website www.sca.org

by special request of my daughter anja...it is "Mr. Fire Guy" :devil1:

andrea

[LonelyLullaby]

aw :) No problem I hope you liked what they meant
And my name got chosen by a book
My mother read "The Gadfly" and fell in love with the character.. hence, Gemma

[Eibhlin]

Hmm, had I been born a boy, I would be Gunna Toivo...after my great, great grandfather-can't get any more Fin than that!
Hmm, I wonder how badly I'd have been teased? :dunno:

Andrea

and by request of my OTHER daughter, Corinne, here is "Mr. Fire Man" again :devil1: :banana: that one is for me

[kjm030584]

Yeah... it's Kyle.

Thanks Ms. Lullaby. I've never heard that interpretation. I've always heard the one about being princely and one with god and all the other junk. I like the one you found better.

[Little Bird]

well if we're talking about our actual names now then most, if not all of you know mine. It's Kiera, which is the British way to spell the more Irish Traditional name Ciara. Pretty much it is the female version of Kieran. It's quite a rare spelling and have only come across it here about 2 or 3 times in my life.

My online name little_bird or eanin_beag as it is in Irish comes from what my grandfather used to call me from time to time as a child. A friend of mine started to call me this a couple of years ago after telling her that so it remained as my online alias.

[LonelyLullaby]

Kyle I'm glad that you like it :)

well if we're talking about our actual names now then most, if not all of you know mine. It's Kiera, which is the British way to spell the more Irish Traditional name Ciara. Pretty much it is the female version of Kieran. It's quite a rare spelling and have only come across it here about 2 or 3 times in my life.

Oh, then I've been looking in all of the wrong places. Ciara- (Irish) Black
Found it. I haven't seen your name in the variations list but I guess yours was translated.. And I can see how the nickname little bird would fit you ;)
And Andrea since your daughters love the Fire man: :devil1: :devil1:

[never.alone]

this thread has jones written all over it

[strengths.with.faults]

i was jus lookin at this and thought of Jonsey or "Vincent"

[DreamsLast]

well if we're talking about our actual names now then most, if not all of you know mine. It's Kiera, which is the British way to spell the more Irish Traditional name Ciara. Pretty much it is the female version of Kieran. It's quite a rare spelling and have only come across it here about 2 or 3 times in my life.

My online name little_bird or eanin_beag as it is in Irish comes from what my grandfather used to call me from time to time as a child. A friend of mine started to call me this a couple of years ago after telling her that so it remained as my online alias.

And it's rather ironic that 'Little Bird' is ALSO a title of a Jewel song!!

[Little Bird]

And it's rather ironic that 'Little Bird' is ALSO a title of a Jewel song!!
It is a mad coincidence really but totally true. My grandfather didn't actually call me 'Little Bird', he called me 'éanín beag' which is little bird in Gaelic.

About 4 years ago, after a conversation with a friend of mine, she happened to refer to me as a little bird and said I was like an 'éanín beag' which immediately spurred on the revival of this nickname.

It was long before this place and before any Jewel forum that I used this username. My husband runs a forum Enigma Message Board (http://www.enigmamusic.com/forum). I am Little Bird there too and so when Unedited came around in the Fansrule days, it seemed logical to use the same screen name. It's now stuck.

[greenpoet]

My name is macel.

[motoslam]

sweet now i kno peoples names lol
im Mo btw

[wackyoverkhaki]

Melinda. Middle name's Mae. I used to hate my name but now I LOVE it! http://jewelkilcherforum.com/images/jkf%20smilies/yahoo.gif I used to hate those kind of names but now I like those old school feminine names. It's better than Apple, Latrina (Latin for "toilet" by the way), Moon Unit, Dakota, or Jazzzmyne with 3 z's or whatever. It seems like every female in my family's middle name is either Mae, Mary, or Marie. I like those names, but how about some variety? And for the boys it's always Geoffrey, Jerome or Curtis, I mean, c'mon...it's like a cult-no variety! Naming habits in my family die hard, but like I said, they're not too bad and could be waaaay worse lol.

It is a mad coincidence really but totally true. My grandfather didn't actually call me 'Little Bird', he called me 'éanín beag' which is little bird in Gaelic.

That's really neat. How many folks in your family actually speak Gaelic? Is it only a small minority in Ireland that can speak it, or are many of the people there bilingual? I also heard that there's an Irish minority that lives in the country that speak Gaelic as their first language and don't even speak English at all. Is that true? I personally think Gaelic is a beautiful language and think it should be preserved. I was always interested in taking it as a foreign language in school but they never offered it.

[Little Bird]

That's really neat. How many folks in your family actually speak Gaelic? Is it only a small minority in Ireland that can speak it, or are many of the people there bilingual? I also heard that there's an Irish minority that lives in the country that speak Gaelic as their first language and don't even speak English at all. Is that true? I personally think Gaelic is a beautiful language and think it should be preserved. I was always interested in taking it as a foreign language in school but they never offered it.

Yep, Gaeilge (the 'real' name for the Irish form of Gaelic, and is pronounced gail-ga) is taught in schools here from our very first day. It is an very difficult language and therefore, only about 33% of Irish people can speak the language 'fluently'. I happen to have the best proficiency of Irish in my family though I am not compelely fluent, I still have more Irish language than most people I know. My mother would be very good at it too though both of us are out of practice.

Many areas on the west coast of Ireland are mainly Irish speaking. Those regions are known as the Gaeltacht (pronounced gail-thocked), mainly parts of Galway and Clare and Kerry but some amaller parts of Mayo, Sligo and Cork also are mainly Irish speaking areas. There are some of those areas that refuse the English language but you'll find that mainly from the older locals there and are few and far between. But Irish would be the primary language spoken there.

I adore our native language and my mother and I have often thought about going back and learning it fluently. We are teaching it to my 3 year old niece now. It's good to teach her early.

If you ever get the opportunity, please consider learning it. It is a very old language and we are trying to preserve it.

[007]

You're right, this thread does have me written all over it, but I'm not selling out.

Call me what you will, because I'm not giving you my real name. So, you'll just have to stick with 'Jones' as an acceptable substitute.



Anchors Aweigh.

[strengths.with.faults]

yea well that's what we call you already. what else is there so we can "call you what we will" or so to say.. ???

[last_dance_rodeo]

my name's chris

[IndianaEDA420]

Joe, Joey, Joseph, JoJo, JoJo Dancer.....
Trixie, when im dressed for the event.

[007]

Well, my friends, and I consider you all friends(yes, even you Never.Alone) being that I have no logical reason to dislike any of you all.

I digress; my friends call me "Sonny".

[Eibhlin]

I am pretty sure everyone knows my name is Andrea by now...

[never.alone]

gotta creepy little signature there Sonny/Jones/Vincent/Casey/Jonesy etc..

[strengths.with.faults]

lol. yea im Robbie. if you didn't know.

Hi!

[awiste]

I'm Alli or Allison. Some people call me "Pants" --I don't know why.

[strengths.with.faults]

Hey Pants!

[M€RIO]

Hello there. My name is Mario, my friends call me Mery =).

[Eibhlin]

gotta creepy little signature there Sonny/Jones/Vincent/Casey/Jonesy etc..

hmm, maybe we should figure out a way to combine the 5 names you have given us so far Jones, into one Super Name that covers everything...

Vincent
Casey
Jones
Sonny....

Vincasonnesy???

[never.alone]

hahahaha :muhaha:

[awiste]

Hey Pants!

Haha! Uh oh... Yeah I dunno where that nickname came from... makes no sense to me but somehow it has stuck around!

[Eibhlin]

maybe they thought you looked pretty hot in your pants??

[007]

"Jones" will suffice. Like I said, it depicts the good ole American picket fence "Leave It To Beaver" lifestyle, like the name "Williams" or "White" or "Johnson".

Trust me, if you had a name like "Cipriani" or "Bartolucci" or "Bandolini", youo'd want a regular name, too!

How many damn times do I have to go over rewriting the same post, I'll just change my username then, so then you all can simply use it!

[never.alone]

everyone here can call me by my real name- Jessica but some of my nicknames are "Richard", "Chuhosto", oooh! and cant forget
"Blood fart"!

yea I dont know here they came from

[007]

"Richard"??? You got something you need to tell us? Just kidding.

[never.alone]

im only kidding....

[never.alone]

"Jones" will suffice. Like I said, it depicts the good ole American picket fence "Leave It To Beaver" lifestyle, like the name "Williams" or "White" or "Johnson".

Trust me, if you had a name like "Cipriani" or "Bartolucci" or "Bandolini", youo'd want a regular name, too! Had I wanted people on this forum to know my real name (which is Italian and is about thirty letters long! Seriously, it gives Schwarzenegger a run for its money!) I would have provided it to you. I want users on this forum to refer to me as "Jones"! Nothing more, nothing less; "SOnny" if you would like. "Casey" was a nickname given to me from someone long ago, it is not my name.

How many damn times do I have to go over rewriting the same post, I'll just change my username then, so then you all can simply use it!

d*mn...it must be tough to keep up with all those names/nicknames, dude.

[Eibhlin]

alright in the spirit of sharing potentially different and ridiculed names

if I had been a boy I would have been named after my great grandfather

Gunna Toivo

VERY finnish name there, but I think it would have been a cool name, mainly because NO ONE else I know has ever had a name even vaguely close to it!

so, to me uncommon names are usually pretty cool, except maybe for Brunhilda or Bertha, those are pretty horrific!

[never.alone]

i love them too!
my name is everywhere there are so many jessicas in my school!
i will be naming my kids random names like:

Lyric
Asa Bird
and for a girl- James

[Eibhlin]

ya, you know James really isnt used all that much anymore is it? My dad's name was James and my (much younger) brother's names is James, but it seems to have fallen out of fashion

[Little Bird]

My name is quite common here but the spelling is not. Kiera is a very rare spelling but I think I covered this before in this thread so I won't go into it.

But it is because of the unusual spelling of my name that makes me love it. I'm so glad my mother decided to be different. I was never one to follow the crowd and I've always liked to be different.

I have all sorts of potential names picked out for my future children. I've a big list. they are all unusual and rare and that's what I like. I just can't wait to put some of them to use. ;) lol

[never.alone]

Is your last name Bird? (sorry if youve answered this already)
because when i first joined here and found out your name i was so in love with it (obviously becasue I want to name one of my kids Asa Bird) but i didnt know if that was just what you called yourself on the internet or not

[Eibhlin]

I always liked the name Elric for a boy, but that stems from my love for the Elric of Melnibone series by Micheal Moorcock

[007]

Hey, I like the name James. Very British, and provides a good outing for those who want to be called 'Jimbo"!

ANd yes, Jessica, it is very, VERY, VERY difficult keeping up with business aliases and such. I believe Nicholas Cage put it best to describe my situation, "It's not the second lives that'll kill you, it's the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth ones that will. on a given day I change identities three to four times, a Turkish diplomat, a British museum curator, a French gambler, and German economist, an Israeli student and an American engineer."

I walk into my office, pick up a briefcase, go over the information inside and scrutinize whatever files are available, and that's who I am for that day, or week, or month. It can change at the drop of a hat. That's why my languages are good. Sometimes, we have to swap out for who we actually are, and you have to be brought back to the world sometimes.

Jones

[DreamsLast]

My given name is Christine Marie. I go by "Christie" to most everyone, and "Chris" by my immediate family only.

People have called me every variation of Christine cause they can't remember which one is right....so usually I respond if there's at least a 'chris' in the name somewhere!!!!

My mom says they had a hard time deciding between 'Rachel' and 'Christine' when I was born...I'm just glad they didn't give me my mother's middle name: GERTRUDE!!! It was also my great-grandmother's first name. I'll take 'Christine' over that ANY DAY! HAHA!! Marie is my grandmother's middle name.

Christine literally means "follower of Christ".........and that's true!

[007]

I acutally like the idea of your name and how you use it, "Christine" that is.

I always said if I ever have a little girl, I wouldl name her either "Marie" or "Maria", that of which I'm not sure.

After all, "Vincent" isn't suchhh a great name. It's like the afornotion of "James". with "James" comes "Jimmy" or "Jim" or "Jimbo" or anythihng like that. Or, one of my old buddy's name who simply called himself "Jim-Jim" or "Slim Jim", you see, they rip it apart.

With Vincent, people try this "Vinni" or "Vinnie" stuff. I cna't stand it, for those who actually call me that (aobut twelve people). Or, what was worse, a few years ago, "Vin", like Vin Diesel. That got old really fast.

Oh well, could have been worse, right Christine? I could have been named a really ethinic name like "Fabrizio", where your only nickname of any kind is 'Fabio". I can picture the jokes right now.

007

[Veilingmeat]

I'm just glad they didn't give me my mother's middle name: GERTRUDE!!! It was also my great-grandmother's first name. I'll take 'Christine' over that ANY DAY! HAHA!! Marie is my grandmother's middle name.

Christine literally means "follower of Christ".........and that's true!

LOL i bet your glad to have never got that name "Gertrude" so very old fashioned...a name of times gone by!

Well as many prolly already know...my name is Marc...Marc with a C. That all stems from my Mother who is half Italian, as my Grandfather Rizzi (R.I.P) was a full blooded Italian, which makes me 1/4 Italian i beleive...which is nice!

Strange thing is though, i was searching once for the meaning of my name...and all i got was; "The real name meaning for - Marc

Marc = Gay, but really nice to girls" :sad: lol i'm NOT gay, :dontthinkso: *******s...but i do luuuuurve Girls...lovely Girls!

[007]

Maybe they meant "Gay" as in "Gaiety", meaning a jolly or happy person, not so much as a homosexual. You were probably reading an old edition of a name book, I'd imagine.

Just putting it in context, it already depicted your connection to females, thus I do think that it wouldl estrainge you by meaning a homosexual, I think it leant more towards happy, energetic, 'a jolly fella'.

Just my opinion, after all, I've read enough dated literature to keep libraries stocking books on their shelves, and not computers. (Yes, I'm a bit old school, loved the classics, when I have time.)

007

Or as Bond, James Bond would say, "I am familiar with the classics, Le Fanu, Bram Stoker, Ambrose Bierce, but those are the particulars I read. I find knowing too many book works to be suspect of evil intent." (collaboration of Bond novel's idea from Sir Ian Fleming.)

[007]

Hey, my grandfather's name is Lloyd, and I've always wanted to name (should I ever have one) my son, Lloyd. Anyone know the meaning, I think it's old school, but a good name. Any takers on that old school idea?

[Veilingmeat]

Hehe...Lloyd, thats a Welsh name!!! nout wrong with that i'd say!? but when i think of the name Lloyd....i think of http://www.msim.org.uk/images/19970521-AS_16_10-Lloyd-Gro.jpg

OI GROSSMAN........NOOOOOOOO!!!

[ROBARE]

ROBARE First name and last name together,Last name is very Irish...

[Little Bird]

OI GROSSMAN........NOOOOOOOO!!!
LOL - pity that joke is lost on most members here.

[DreamsLast]

How 'bout we take this one step further and discuss the national origins of our families?? That is, if you know what they are.

For instance, I am mostly of Swedish and Irish descent, with a little bit of "mutt" mixed in for good measure (French, German, English).... ;-) My great-grandfather came to the U.S. from Stockholm, Sweden in 1907 on a ship named Oscar II (he later gave his son, my grandfather, 'Oscar' as his middle name). That is my most direct (& most recent) line from Europe. More distantly my dad's side is Irish but you have to go back 5 or 6 generations back to get to Ireland.

I've been working on my genealogy for the last 2 years, it's become quite a fun and interesting project!! I have a 2nd cousin who has visited our family that remained in Sweden. One day I hope to do the same.

[Eibhlin]

My great grandmother had traced our ancestry back to the Mayflower, my aunt has the records, one day I will borrow them and maybe make a tree. I always thought it would be cool to make an online famiyl tree for our family. The origins I know about are Finnish/British on my dad's side. My mother's side French/Canadian. Apparent;y if I wanted to, I could become a member of the Daughters of the Mayflower and one of our ancestors Rebecca Nurse was flaseley accused of witchcraft and hung in the Salem Witch Trials.

[DreamsLast]

How interesting, Andrea!! That's the kind of stuff I love finding out!!! It's amazing to me to learn of something that an ancestor did, hearing stories of their lives. It's not so much fun when all you have on someone is a birth & death date. It's the stories that make it exciting!!

[Eibhlin]

good lawd my typing is NO reflection of my actual spelling ability-thank God!!!

[JThisWay620]

Well my name is Jonathan. It's Hebrew for "God has given" or God is Gracious."
As for my family, I'm of Puerto Rican descent. Although My grandfather's family is from Espania so I have some fresh European blood in there a bit. Beyond that I can honestly say I have no idea of my family's origins.

[007]

My name means 'to prevail'. It is from the Latin origin, meaning "to concquer".

I hhave dated origins that I am an English descendent from a Westminster family that came to America in the 1700's, beginning with a man who came over on a boat, whose first name was 'Cornelius'. His surname matches mine and will be kept private for my own sake. his grandchildren fought in the Cavalry during the Civil War. THis is my paternal side. They are English. The children of each generation have gone to serve their nation's hour of need by military service. This includes the Civil War, the Indian Wars, the Great War, World War II, and Vietnam.

Onto my mother's side. Again, surnames will be kept private. They are native American, of two tribes. The farthest it goes back is the 1830's, beginning with an Indian man named Marjaha (this sounds like a girl's name, but it was his, guess they wanted a girl, don't know much about the origin here!). ALl I know about him is that his parents were slaughtered on the Indian Removal Act of 1839, by the Trail of Tears, a long march over several states where Indians were forced to leave their homems to live on restricted reservations. His parents were killed during that march. He had children, George Washington (surname omitted), who moved back to his native area through hthe Dawes Act, and was 'transformed' into an American citizen via the Dawes Act. He had a girl and a boy, I don't know the girls name, but I think theh boy's name was Zebulon, "Zeb". George Washington was killed during the Civil War fighting for his country that took away his own blood kin. His little girl died and the boy was raised alone, and had a child at a young age out of wedlock, Jesse. Now, Zeb was killed during the Indian Wars by the Cavalry. Jesse fought in the Great War (World War I), and was a replacement in the trecnh warfare combat system.

The crazy thing is that my father's side of the family was Union during the Civil War, my mother's Confederate. My mother's side is Indian and my fathehr's side was US Cavalry, the men who killed the Indians. And then not only that, my ancestor, Jesse, was not declared a citizen by our nation and put into a replacement depot to fight in WWI, with white men who considered him "crazy" only based ono theh fact he was an Indian. Jesse, served his nation well in the Argonne forest, and was one of the few Indian codetalkers during World War I. And yes, I'm a historian and would know over anyone else here, their were code talkers during WWI, so quit watching WIndtalkers and learning Cha-Da-ga-Hee, and remembering it means tortoise. The first codetalkers were used during WWI, and they were Indians, but since Indians weren't quite citizens of the United States, but citizens ofo their own individual Indian nation, they were wrongfully labelled and recorded by the white man as 'insane'. Believe it or not, they were actually considered mentally insane and unstable by the US Armed Forces, all Indians. NO one was spared, if you were noticably enough Indian, in which he was a full blood, you were resstricted amounts of pay, not allowed full furlough in certain cities during certain times. It was politics and racism was all. Just like black soldiers during WWI and WWII, they were consdiered 'less usable' by their white counterparts and were given less pay compared to the white men in service and were also not allowed 'real jobs', but were cooks and truck drivers. The racism in this nation was really insane then, literally. My ancestor, Jesse, fought for his nation against the Turks and Germans, and was not given back pay, service overseas pay, or anything to compensate. They were considered and officially labelled as 'insane' because they were from an Indian reservation, and they were actually beter warriors. And he was worngfully labelled 'insane', as that is no reflection on me.

I heard stories passed down about him fighting without arms, but using his own hands and a knife, and how the white soldiers stayed away from him because he knew brutal scalping methods and techniques of CQC. It was interesting to know that old Jess shut 'em up with his skill. Then again, think about it. He was on the run from the Cavalry as were his family, from right on to the end of WOunded Knee, where he buried his heart and his father. I guess I could still learn a thing or two from him, but not without a heater and some serious smelling salts.

It makes me want to talk to each person, my father's side, the Union Cavalry and the later 7th Cavalry, in their triumphant campaign against the 'savage Indian nations'. And then talk to my mother's family that was part of teh white man's slaughtering of the Indians, who raped thier women, stole their land, and hunted down each person's father and mother. To know that my father's ancestors couldl have battled during the Civil War against each other, then again in the Indian Wars, and then again thrown together to fight with prejudice in the Great War, it was unnerving to think about. It is quite possible, though highly imporbable, that my ancestor from the father's side, could have actually killed the ancestor on my mother's side. It's defintely different knowing that, and makes me think of where I came from, and how my ancestors could have been good friends. You know, my father's fmaily might have liked to fish, and the mother's side mighth have liked to hunt....but under different circumstances, you know, they might have been good friends.

007

[never.alone]

my name means "wealthy"

simple as that.

[awiste]

I have no idea what my name means but I do know that my mother's grandparents came over from Ireland during the potato famin. Then her father's grandparents came over from Germany. I don't know a lot about my dad's side of the family except that somewhere down the line I'm related to a pope. Thats all I know. I"ve been really wanting to dig a little further into my heritage but right now I don't have a whole lot of time to do that.

[007]

A pope, you should collect indulgences!

[awiste]

A pope, you should collect indulgences!

Yeeaaahhhh, I don't know about that... I'm not a religious person by any means but I suppose my aunts who are fransiscan nuns think its pretty awesome.