Why is Jewel still wasting her time with Ty?

[wackyoverkhaki]

She says she doesn't want to marry him until they work out their problems. I really don't understand how someone could be together for 8 years and not be married yet. I mean, to be with someone for 8 years and not be married yet seems like a waste of time to me-shouldn't she know by now whether he's right for her or not? If he still has too many issues, why doesn't she just dump him? She obviously deserves someone better and it's a shame she hasn't found her man yet. It just personally bugs me that she's wasted all of this time with him. You know who sounds really cool was Steve Poltz- I think he would've made a great hubby. Well, that was my opinion like it would actually make a difference.:rolleyes:

[mjuehl3]

well, while steve seems like a really cool guy, i think he would have been a bit wild for her to marry...

[M€RIO]

If she will not marry ty, why shouldnt she?? its jewels decision!! i think you dont need a marriage today... in my opinion the 2 are a great couple =). Maybe if you marry someone you destroy your relationship (maybe), not everybody needs a marriage to have a good, lucky and beautiful relation.

[never.alone]

i think the bigger question is why arent they makin babies?? Jewels not getting any younger! I think her kid will have the coolest mom in the world :)

i wonder what she would name them??

[BlondeFlame]

I have to agree that I don't think he's right for her, but that's just my opinion, and it's not even a (truly) informed one. I also think her relationship with Ty has changed her writing.... I dunno. Interesting thread.

[motoslam]

i think the bigger question is why arent they makin babies?? Jewels not getting any younger! I think her kid will have the coolest mom in the world :)

i wonder what she would name them??

haha thats funny. good question lol

[strengths.with.faults]

she should date John Mayer... just a thought:yahoo: lol

[Little Bird]

Jewel should only do whatever makes her happy. If that means marriage, or babies or both or not, then that is purely up to her and Ty.

My husband and I were together 9 years before getting married. We're married 8 months now. Marriage should not be taken likely. Like Jewel, my parents split when I was young and it made me think very strongly about whether I should ever get married. I knew I would want to have children but there was something different about marriage.

When you think about it, couples are more willing to get involved in a huge financial commitment when buying a home more so than getting married first. At least it is treated that way here in Ireland. Marriage is for life. At least that is how is should be and so, making that emotional commitment is worth more than anything money can buy. So entering into a hugely emotional commitment, requires a lot of respect and understanding of what marriage is and sticking to it.

I suppose Jewel just wants to make sure that if she does enter into a marital commitment to Ty, that it is a one off thing to last forever.

If anyone ever has a doubt, then I don't believe marriage should be entered into until such time that you are free of that doubt.

I totally respect that she hasn't lept into something just because society thinks she should.

[mjuehl3]

i think the bigger question is why arent they makin babies?? Jewels not getting any younger! I think her kid will have the coolest mom in the world :)

i wonder what she would name them??


ha i wonder that too...i think she would name them some unique names. not one that tons of people have. ha maybe anais

[Little Bird]

ha i wonder that too...i think she would name them some unique names. not one that tons of people have. ha maybe anais
That's high on my own list of potential baby names ;)!

[Crawfy-Glasgow]

Hi,if Jewel ever does have any kids,i think if she had a boy,or a girl,she would call them Taylor,it's quite a cool name for a girl or a guy,and of course her Taylor guitars collection are already like her babies.
I agree with Kiera,i believe Jewel will do whats right for her,she is a very intelligent person,and if Ty is the man for her in the end,well she will know that,perhaps she has not made that decision as yet.
My wife and i were together for 7 years before we got married,and that was 9 years ago now,and we are very happy,but we don't regret waiting till the time was right for both of us.
Perhaps Ty is desperate to marry,and Jewel is not ready,or it may be Jewel who is wanting marriage and Ty is not ready,who knows,only the two of them can sort that one out.
One problem must be their work schedules,between them you would imagine that they will not see too much of each other,that can put a massive strain on any relationship.
I'm not too sure if he is the right man for her,all i know is that he is damned lucky to have her as a girlfriend,she is smart,stunningly gorgeous,talented beyond belief,funny,natural,need i go on ?
Good luck to both of them in whatever comes their way.

[007]

I don't mean to sound like ole Bateman here, but it truly is her AND Ty's choice. It shouldn't be one ended. Marriage means a lot of sacrifices and equal force. Most people think marriage is 50/50. I tell them "NO, MARRIAGE IS 100/100 PER CENT." Because it is, and I value the sanctity of the institution, but I also believe that in today's society, it is not necessary. If two are in love, it does not necessitate marriage. I just throw that belief to the way side and dismiss it as mere enthusiam.

And some people were not meant or destined to bear children, take me for example: not everyone can or wants to be a father or mother, whether it be they don't want it or they are sterile due to some accident. Both are equally fine in the eyes of God. Do you really think God would be angry with you at the pearly gates because you didn't have children by fault or choice? No, kids aren't mean for everyone.

Old salts press marriage, but it never has been a proximation of 'true love'. Take Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn, been living together for thirty years! Never married, perfect example.

Some people believe in love without boundaries. Think if they really loved each other and broke up, they would be in a divorce war, and those suck beyond belief. I spent my childhood trying to figure out whose house was I in custody at on which day. Children don't need that, nor does the couple, should they break up.

Marriage, in my opinion, is a complete gridlock and fabrication of old tradition of love. All it does is 'tie theh knot', literally. Think about it, "Until death do you part!" What if you can't love the same person for fifty years, or longer!? I can't even find a woman who can stand me for more than eight hours, usually between 10 PM and 6 AM. That's about the only time when any women at all can even put up with me.

(NOTE: For those of you reading this, who are incdiently just recovering under similar circumstances in an unfamilliar place amidst a hue of beer cans and smoked cigarettes, next to someone you don't recognize, get out and go to the clinic, now.)

My apologies for the slurred analogy and joke, hahd to say it. But it's true, not everyone is mean to have marriage, or even have someone! Not everyone desires nor can handle that monogamy, that truth behind it. It not that uncommon, my father and mother couldn't do it, and I can't do it, it must be genetic.

Commitment is a scary issue that most guys DIRECTLY FEAR. We're scared to death of commitment! I'm sure that Ty is not any different.

Shouldl they not want to have commitment, either which way, I respect them. Marriage is totally crazy to me, because I can't be around the same peoplel all day ever, but maybe they can. If they don't chohose marriage, does it really make their relationship less valid?

Jones
"The Lonely Angel"

[Crawfy-Glasgow]

Yeah i agree with that pretty much,my wife and i are 42 and 37 years old respectivly,and we have no intention of having kids,we are happy as we are.
I know you can 'never say never' but during our 9 year marriage we have been pretty certain that it just is not a priority for us personally.
I dont think that marriage has made any dramatic difference to our relationship,certainly directly after the wedding day,for a few weeks you feel a closer bond because you feel you have made a strong life-long commitment to each other,and it's a nice feeling,but in reality,we were happy with each other before being married,and we feel exactly the same today.
Jewel and Ty will do what's right for them,but as usual when you are a celebrity,the whole world is watching your every move,waiting for the big announcment,and that must put a fair bit of pressure on Jewel and Ty.
We will have to 'Watch This Space' for a while yet possibly.

By the way Jones,it might be Crocket weather soon where you are,but we are -5c in Scotland at the moment,so i will unfortunately not be wearing the shades etc for a few months yet,cheers mate !

Cheers Crawfy !!!

[007]

Hey, we all can't have great weather! Three blocks away from my hhouse, I can go swimming in m ocean in December! However I don't recommend it for theh faint of heart, the water is about teh temperature of freezing today, but I still swim in it. I've hahd some aquatic training that taughth me how to be warm in the freezing water.

I'd swim the English Channel in my skivvies if I were their, right now! That'd be a sight, a grown man swimming practically naked across the Jersey Islands into France. I could make it! I could swim from Dover to Callais in five hours, any bets?

Jonesy

[never.alone]

well she simply stated in Stephenville that she might be a mother one day

theres a slice of hope

itd be shame if she didnt have kids but im sure they will....dont know how cute theyll be cos Ty anit much of a looker but hopefully the kid will get all of Jewels beauty lol

[fabiojj]

She said she still doesn't feel all grown up. I think that's why she doesn't want kids right now. She still feels like one.

[wackyoverkhaki]

But how is marriage any less important today than it was before just because people say it's less important?

For those of you that pulled the cliche "it's her business", I clearly stated it was just a personal opinion- of course it's her decision! But I personally don't understand what folks have against monogamy. Infidelity is not something to be celebrated. Just because people say marriage isn't relevant doesn't make it so. Infidelity is no less wrong than it ever was, and people today seem to think it's totally ok; they think they should just do what they feel like instead of demonstrating self-control. (Doesn't "commitment" just mean fidelity? Doesn't sound like rocket science to me). Although there are exceptions (like Goldie Hawn), for the most part marriage provides structure and security and if too many people begin to ditch marriage, it will result in societal chaos; which is what I fear will happen.


But I think you mistook my post as insulting Jewel, which I wasn't- my main point was that I think Jewel deserves someone better if Ty can't even make a commitment to the most beautiful woman in the world; I mean, you'd have to be a real pig not to be satisfied with Jewel. Given that she's so beautiful, intelligent and wonderful I think she'd make the best wife in the world and she deserves someone who won't take her for granted. And what I don't understand is, why not get married? I mean, being intimate and monogamous, living together...isn't that the same thing is being married? So if a couple is that close, then why are they so afraid of a little piece of paper?

But as for Jewel's case, I can definitely understand her fear of marriage given that so many people she knows including her parents have had failed marriages. You see, I have a different schema of marriage given that I come from a nuclear family and my parents have always had a strong, loving successful marriage. I think people usually develop their schemas and ideals of marriage from their parents since they're the ones who set the example of what's "normal". And where did this discussion of kids come from? I don't want kids given that I feel like a big kid myself:) But I definitely want a husband someday. I'm 20 though, so I got time!

[Sitdogboy!]

I also think her relationship with Ty has changed her writing.

For the better! I like most of her lyrics, but some of them can get a little out of place. Satilite was the randomest lyrics ever :laugh:

[BlondeFlame]

I don't think it's fair to say that she'd make the best wife in the world and all that jazz... none of us knows her in real life. We have no idea who she is, really. Not that she's not the light of my life, but I can't say I know that she'd be the best wife in the world....

And I don't think any of her lyrics are out of place. They're just Jewel, and sometimes her songs are really cryptic. Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean she meant them as ramblings of nothing.

[DreamsLast]

For the better! I like most of her lyrics, but some of them can get a little out of place. Satilite was the randomest lyrics ever :laugh:

Satellite was written when she first moved to California when she was like 18 years old, WAAAYYYYY before Ty was ever in the picture.

[fabiojj]

I'm thinking he's talking about the randomness at the ending, which is pretty new.

[IndianaEDA420]

itd be shame if she didnt have kids but im sure they will....dont know how cute theyll be cos Ty anit much of a looker but hopefully the kid will get all of Jewels beauty lol


Thats another matter of opinion.....TY IS WAY HOTT!!! Save a horse, RIDE A COWBOY!!! He gots him some nice thighs.

[DreamsLast]

I think they're good for each other. So they're a little marriage-shy, who isn't these days?? If they're happy and still together, then great for them!! I think she'll eventually have kids too. As she states in her song STX, "Maybe a mother someday." Ty has been in so many of Jewel's videos and I don't think she'd allow such a thing if they weren't in it for the long haul. I think they complement each other well!!

[ItBeThatWay27]

Jewel should only do whatever makes her happy. If that means marriage, or babies or both or not, then that is purely up to her and Ty.

My husband and I were together 9 years before getting married. We're married 8 months now. Marriage should not be taken likely. Like Jewel, my parents split when I was young and it made me think very strongly about whether I should ever get married. I knew I would want to have children but there was something different about marriage.

When you think about it, couples are more willing to get involved in a huge financial commitment when buying a home more so than getting married first. At least it is treated that way here in Ireland. Marriage is for life. At least that is how is should be and so, making that emotional commitment is worth more than anything money can buy. So entering into a hugely emotional commitment, requires a lot of respect and understanding of what marriage is and sticking to it.

I suppose Jewel just wants to make sure that if she does enter into a marital commitment to Ty, that it is a one off thing to last forever.

If anyone ever has a doubt, then I don't believe marriage should be entered into until such time that you are free of that doubt.

I totally respect that she hasn't lept into something just because society thinks she should.


Kiera you are great. I read through threads now and just eagerly wait to see your post come up and shed some light on the topic. It's a breath of fresh air in the smog..

[ItBeThatWay27]

For the better! I like most of her lyrics, but some of them can get a little out of place. Satilite was the randomest lyrics ever :laugh:

WHAT! Satellite is one of the best songs she's written. She sees hollywood for what is really is, most "stars" can't do that because they become part of that fairytale [FAKE!] life...