death penalty

[M€RIO]

Now that we have disscussed about the theme aileen wuornos in "maybe access" to nicotine love, I want to know what you personaly think of death penalty. you know in aileens case she had a really horrible life and it makes her murdered 7 men. I think its inexcusable that she murdered 7 humans, but you can understand why she did that.. she should still be in arrest because to murder a murderer is also a murder of an human!! so i cant understand that why to kill another person should be good?

[last_dance_rodeo]

I don't agree with the death penalty. I consider life in a prison harsh enough.

[Sitdogboy!]

All I know if I had the choice to be in prison or have the death penalty, I would rather die!

Yes I agree with the death penalty! If they did somethig that bad, kill em! If they raped, cut of there #@*8's, let them sit a day, them kill them! Like this case that hapened yeaterday. That boy was kidnaped when he was 11, and they found him yeaterday at 15 when another boy was kidnaped. First let me say, I live like 10 minutes away from where they found them T__T Im afriad! They should kill him, definitly. He held him for 4 years! Plus near me *shiver*. I bet he was sexually abused, near me T__T Im only 15, It could be me next!

I am sorry for the millions of spelling errors :D

[ItBeThatWay27]

what is T__T???????????????

Well I don't really agree with the death penalty. Sometimes I think I do. Sometimes EYE FOR AN EYE sounds good... but murder for murder? That's like saying if a guy rapes a woman then the judge gets to rape the rapist's mother or daughter or sister... doesn't seem right. It just puts the government at the top like they are beyong-human or something. This is a touchy subject because if anyone ever raped or killed my wife I would most definately track them down and kill them. Have u ever seen A Time To Kill? Very powerful movie..

[M€RIO]

unfortunately i havent seen the movie

[M€RIO]

^^ I think T___T is a smilie !!!

[Little Bird]

Personally, I don't agree with it. I believe in the afterlife and I believe in Karma, therefore, they'll get their comeuppence.

Not having the freedom whilst being in jail for life then when they do die, they'll reap what they have sown. That's what I feel about it.

However, that is obviously based on outside experience. I suppose if someone hurt my family like that, then I would probably feel differently.

In relation to that poor kid in St. Louis. I think he's going be severely traumatised and I feel really bad for him. I used to 'date' a guy from St Louis. His family came to live in Ireland but he's gone back to America now. I believe his family are from quite near where this took place. It's tragic when you hear anything like this but worse when you hear about it when you know someone or are from that area.

[Sitdogboy!]

I am like 10 minutes away from this. Its in Kirkwood! Think of all of the children at the magic house near there!

Yes, T__T i a face crying.

[ItBeThatWay27]

My friend used to live in St Louis. I don't know what area though, I never went there...

My only thing about life in prison is that I think the conditions are getting better for them. I don't think they should be allowed so much contact with the outside world, and if it was up to me, there'd be none (for LIFERS I mean) I don't think they should be getting book deals, or allowed internet use, and don't quote me here but don't they eat pretty well too?? And they don't even pay taxes...... hmmm sounds pretty nice to me... nobody pays for my internet or my food and offers me book deals... oh wait but I am paying for it..... hmmm see this is a rough topic.
I don't really mind paying taxes that go to paying for people in prison to live there... like I said I don't think the death penalty is right, but I just think life in prison shouldn't be so comfty..

-and about those 2 boys, were they ok mentally? I mean I can't help but think of Patty Hearst or Elizabeth Smart. When they were eventually found they didn't even really know who they were anymore... I don't know anything about this new story, is there an article about it somewhere?

here's an article about Elizabeth Smart that quotes Patty Hearst:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/national/main543980.shtml

[ShawnShamrock]

Anyone else find that kidnapping a little year. The kid looks perfectly fine 4 years later and he didn't look shocked to see his mother. Something was deft going on there

[Little Bird]

Sometimes these kids are brain washed and don't remember their true identity. It has happened before. I just feel really sorry for both of them but especially the boy that lost 4 years of his life living with a paediphile. How horrifying.

[strengths.with.faults]

I couldnt imagine having my life taken away and being forced to live with some sick person and feel helpless. I wonder what goes through those victims' minds when they have to wait for years before they are rescued.

[ItBeThatWay27]

Kiera is right. They just forget who they are and sort of fade away. They become part of the situation and their mind eventually adjusts to what is happening to them and they know nothing of their past life. That poor kid was probably in a state of shock and had no idea what was going on. I wouldnt be surprised if at this point in his mental state/health that he would want to return to the way he was living before.. it's really sad.

[ItBeThatWay27]

here is an article that was on AOL about the boy and his life with the kidnapper.
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/kidnapped-boy-may-have-posted-clues/20070113065009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

It is really pissing me off how the media is wanting this kid to answer questions about why he did not try to escape. There is a term they use to describe this sort of situation and it's called Stockholm Syndrome. If you read the last quote at the bottom of that article, you will see that is the only person w/ a shred of sense about the ordeal.

[Little Bird]

Do you think a person like that kidnapper would deserve the death penalty? I don't think it is the type thing they give the death penalty for but I'm curious

[last_dance_rodeo]

I don't think the death penalty is necessary in this type of situation but I do think life in prison is.

[ItBeThatWay27]

No I don't think he does. I don't think anyone does. But like I said way earlier, I won't really know b/c I am not in the shoes of the families. But no I don't think he deserves death for what he did.

[DreamsLast]

I'm staying out of this one....discussions about this subject tend to get ugly whether it is the intention or not.

[Little Bird]

Well I, for one, would like to commend everyone in this thread on their ability to maturely discuss this topic for 17 posts now without a war breaking out. I have seen this topic raised on other forums and the same cannot be said for those.

It's great that we can all openly discuss topics with respect and maturity.

Thanks everyone.

[ItBeThatWay27]

That's why I like this forum so much, it's not like any other forum I've ever been to.

[kjm030584]

Morally I'm against the death penalty, but when you think about all the overcrowding that's going on in US prisons it makes killing some of the prisoners off seem like a logical plan. I know that if I was stuffed into an overcrowded prison I'd definitely do something to warrant the death penalty. ;-)

[Sitdogboy!]

Shawn Hornback didnt forget himself. As soon as the police walked in he said "Im Shawn Hornback".

Thats all TV is taking about at all around here. That and the weather.

[ItBeThatWay27]

I didn't meant he literally forgot his name. It's not that simple. But the fact that he was walking around freely around the apartment complex w/ a cell phone and all and never tried to seek help shows definate signs of stockholm syndrome or some sort of coercive persuasion on the part of the kidnapper.

[DreamsLast]

Well I, for one, would like to commend everyone in this thread on their ability to maturely discuss this topic for 17 posts now without a war breaking out. I have seen this topic raised on other forums and the same cannot be said for those.

It's great that we can all openly discuss topics with respect and maturity.

Thanks everyone.

Yes we are a more mature bunch, that's for sure! (Thank goodness!) I just hope you'll understand why I don't wish to participate in this one...Thanks!! You're the best!!

[Little Bird]

Of course I do, completely and that's perfectly alright. Sometimes there are topics we just don't feel comfortable commenting on and it's each to their own. There's no rule to say you have to.

Appreciate your honesty!

[ItBeThatWay27]

I have a question that sort of relates to this topic. Last night some co-workers of mine were discussing the death penalty and they brought up that in California there is a "3 Strikes" law where if you commit the same crime 3 times, that's it, and you get life in prison. Anybody know more about this?

[last_dance_rodeo]

wow really? Never heard of that

[ItBeThatWay27]

yes apparently some people have even got life for stealing a pack of gum 3 times...

[last_dance_rodeo]

that's crazy